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Head Roller
02-09-2007, 09:58 PM
Mike started a new airbrush technique series today. He will be teaching portrait methods on a light background. The first class covered creating a headshot mask in Corel.
Mike has asked that everyone choose a subject and work on the techniques demostrated today. We have created this forum in the Public Section to allow for all participants to "turn in" their homework.
Additional class information, references, transcripts and mini-tuts will continue to be a member's only privilege and can be found in the Learn Academy LIVE! forum in that section.
Let's see your projects!
Head Roller
02-09-2007, 09:59 PM
Here it is.
This will be painted on a 2' x 2' white panel:
shane
02-09-2007, 10:35 PM
ok im in i want to try!
Jake Kobrin
02-09-2007, 10:58 PM
Cool! I got a pic of my mom but it sucks... I might do a self portrait ... :p
Jake
D-Man
02-09-2007, 11:05 PM
I missed the class,I was busy playing Burnout 3 with my daughter.
But I can still do the homework!
madskillz
02-10-2007, 07:22 AM
Man I missed it again. Damn time zone. Maybe next time.
Kreativefx
02-10-2007, 10:19 AM
dang... i missed it tooo.... i luv portraits... waiting for the transcripts
Edkrup
02-10-2007, 11:13 AM
I'm in.
Here's mine.
I missed the class,I was busy playing Burnout 3 with my daughter.
But I can still do the homework!
burnout revenge is kick ass!
i gotta get the transcript from last night i went to pick up a friend that had car trouble
Jake Kobrin
02-10-2007, 02:40 PM
Can we do a portrait of someone thats not in our family? I can't snag any good shots of them.
Jake
Palepainter
02-10-2007, 06:56 PM
Anyone you want. I was going to focus on doing color this time. We will do another project like this in monochromatic. I like the shot Ed..but maybe you will get more out of the class using color.
Edkrup
02-11-2007, 07:07 AM
Anyone you want. I was going to focus on doing color this time. We will do another project like this in monochromatic. I like the shot Ed..but maybe you will get more out of the class using color.
I want to add color. I have a color refrence pic of Bree I'll use for the skin tones. Do you want me to post it?
I had this pic for a while and been wanting to paint it. If it not of any use for this class, I'll do another.
Palepainter
02-11-2007, 08:47 AM
Ok Ed. that will leave you room for artistic interpretation.
norgy
02-16-2007, 11:38 AM
Mike, I want to do my portrait using a pencil trace rather than vinyl. Not a problem is it?
heres mine hope this post
damn it i cant get it to show up where it looks good
bob mc
02-20-2007, 09:15 PM
Here's mine...
I might have put in a bit more detail than necessary...but I haven't cut yet..and easier to take out than put it in late.
Planned for a white masonite art board 11 x 14 inches
Palepainter
02-20-2007, 09:33 PM
Great pic bob,
Watch that eye on the right. It looks just a bit large. it will be a perfect study subject.
Palepainter
02-20-2007, 09:34 PM
Where is everyones portrait. Anyone who is getting involved with the class needs to get the image up so we can discuss. We will be back on this Friday.
bob mc
02-20-2007, 09:54 PM
Great pic bob,
Watch that eye on the right. It looks just a bit large. it will be a perfect study subject.
Hmmm.... odd... I see what you mean...I don't remember seeing it when I was working on it.
I'll have to look at it again in Corel. The eyelid area is pretty dark in the photo, maybe I followed the upper lid. The iris might be large too...
hmm
gixster92
02-20-2007, 10:08 PM
Iam hoping to get mine done, but this darn thing called life keeps getting in my way :) I will find the time.... I have a couple of days right?
anderekel
02-20-2007, 10:16 PM
I'd do one, but sadly I have no drawing programs or even photo programs, oh well, I'm still learning stuff for the future at least. :D
Edkrup
02-21-2007, 05:34 AM
Mike,
Should we cut the vinyl before the class?
gixster92
02-21-2007, 07:04 AM
continuing on Ed's question... what about those of use that will do this assignement but we DON'T have a plotter? just print it out and exacto knife it? If yes to the exacto knife.... how do you suggest we cut it? with vinyl you get it cut and it stays together and you peel away as needed, If I cut my computer paper I will have a nice jig saw puzzle that most likely will not fit tight when placing together. Please Advise.
Palepainter
02-21-2007, 07:29 AM
If you can, cut the masks or guides on the vinyl. What ever you may have available to you. If you are doing it on paper, hold on cutting the image until we are ready to paint. Other wise you will have a bunch of loose pieces all over the place. I would cut the vinyl lightly so as not to go through the backing. Then apply the transfer tape just like you normally would use vinyl.
norgy
02-21-2007, 08:05 AM
If I do this I wanna just use a drawing as a guide? OK?....I know the point of the class is using plotter but, I would prefere to use a pencil drawing guide instead.
how can i post my corel version
i cant figure out how to save in eps format either
Edkrup
02-21-2007, 08:40 AM
how can i post my corel version
i cant figure out how to save in eps format either
To save it as a EPS file, you have to use the export option. Hit File, Export, than pick EPS, hit the Export button. Thats it.
Post it like any other file.
Palepainter
02-21-2007, 08:43 AM
If I do this I wanna just use a drawing as a guide? OK?....I know the point of the class is using plotter but, I would prefere to use a pencil drawing guide instead.
The point is not nessecarily to use the plotter, but to do a portrait with the computer for those who dont have a projector. Do it how ever it works for you. The first part of the class was designed to teach those interested in doing it a different way. No harm. Just get ready to paint how ever .
Palepainter
02-21-2007, 08:45 AM
how can i post my corel version
i cant figure out how to save in eps format either
To get an image to post, just export it as a jpg with the lines of the image off to the left. Watch the size of the image when exporting.
Palepainter
02-21-2007, 08:51 AM
OK GUYS......It is getting a bit frustrating for some.
The objective. Find an image of someone that will keep you inspired to paint and maintain interest in the project. COLOR preferably.
Class 1. Cover the use of drawing program to set up a template for your portrait.
Class 2. Starting of color and use of layout of mask. For those not using mask...By pass and do what you do how ever you do it. No biggy. the emphasis on class one was to show those interested how I do it. Thats all.
We will also discuss the mixing of your initial tones. Some images will vary depending on the image you choose. That is why I would like to see the images you choose if you wish to participate in the class project.
Bottom line is I am trying to get a group effort on a project that will be fun...Not a PIA for everyone. So everyone put down the over caffienated coffee and lets relax and have fun. HHAHAHA
ok heres mine
how do i get the lines to show up better?
i had to downsize it alot from the original
jnichols
02-21-2007, 09:34 AM
Still having troubles with some aspects of vectorizing, but here is what I came up with so far.
Any help with my file would be appreciated. :)
not sure if I can be there friday night but i will try My best, If not will try to keep up through the log files.
Thanks !
Jim Nichols
Worked on the eps file some more. Finally figured out the bezier curve tool on the chin area :fing02:
Palepainter
02-21-2007, 09:48 AM
Good pic Jim.
Nunk,
Nice photo. how big are you planning on doing the image. Our focus is on the face for this project, and I am a bit afraid that you will be progressing a bit faster due to the size of the facial area. It is your call. Alot of the stuff we will discuss will also apply to the rest of the body.
norgy
02-21-2007, 09:53 AM
Until I find a better pic gonna try this one of my daughter....
i was gonna do the whole pic on a 12x18 sign blank
i could just do the face though
does it look ok mike?
jeffw
02-21-2007, 10:14 AM
is there a transcript on the first part of this? id love to jump in but misses the imoprtant day one..
thanks jeff
Palepainter
02-21-2007, 10:54 AM
Nunk,
the face wuld be a perfect place to start. Its a great shot.
Palepainter
02-21-2007, 10:55 AM
is there a transcript on the first part of this? id love to jump in but misses the imoprtant day one..
thanks jeff
Jeff,
There is a transcript somewhere earlier in this thread.
so should i go ahead and cut the file as the full shot?
and have that ready for friday i wish my computer was near my booth cant do it though
chromewarrior555
02-21-2007, 11:28 AM
Hey you guys that are in the same boat as me. What I use if I want to paint something, and need a template is. Print out what ever your going to paint. Make like 5 copys. Cover the back of the picture w/ masking tape. Cut out your picture. Say your painting a head, cut out the outline. Then cut out the eyes, and other features. If you working on something really detailed, you just make more copys. Hope this helps.
gixster92
02-21-2007, 09:05 PM
here is my submission... if Mrs Lima doesn't keep your attention you are not human :)
http://learnairbrush.com/gallery/data/500/medium/mllimaoutline.jpg
Palepainter
02-21-2007, 09:37 PM
Great choice.
liquidartstudio
02-21-2007, 10:47 PM
Here is my homework project.....:biglaugh:
Sorry Mike couldn't find a better pic.
Kevin
Palepainter
02-21-2007, 10:55 PM
HEHEHHE...man you are going to hate yourself after lookin at that for a few hours. HEHEHE
moonshine
02-22-2007, 05:31 PM
I'm in.
D-Man
02-22-2007, 08:00 PM
Here is mine.
I think I will leave the drool out though. :)
Head Roller
02-22-2007, 08:01 PM
no way.. the drool is AWESOME... hhehehe
shane
02-22-2007, 09:23 PM
she's a little cutey D man:fing02:
Edkrup
02-23-2007, 05:10 AM
Here is mine.
I think I will leave the drool out though. :)
Keep the drool, it looks perfect just the way it is.
Palepainter
02-23-2007, 10:29 AM
Good pics guys!
gixster92
02-23-2007, 02:40 PM
PP or anyone who might know... I hate to sound like a complete newbie at the vinyl stuff; however I am :( Anyway, thanks to BobMC he did a vinyl cut of my picture, do we need to put this on our panel before class starts, or is this part of the class? If we do it before the class starts, do the normal scuff and clean before we put the vinyl on? Again I know these are big fat NEWBIEish q's but want to be prepared one way or the other.
Palepainter
02-23-2007, 03:18 PM
Yeah,
Go ahead and transfer the mask before class. And yes......Prep your panel for paint.
D-Man
02-23-2007, 09:03 PM
she's a little cutey D man:fing02:
She is a HE Shane.... :)
Head Roller
02-23-2007, 09:08 PM
Your homework is to work on the first "base"color of your portrait. Take your time. Remember what you LEARN-ed.
Transcripts and "mini-tuts" will be posted in the Members Section tomorrow.
shane
02-23-2007, 09:13 PM
She is a HE Shane.... :)
man I'm really sorry man! cute little boy man hes got more hair then you don't he?
norgy
02-23-2007, 09:16 PM
ok practice run...I cudnt stand to watch mike paint anymore so I had to run out and try one for myself ...Wife said I WILL NOT post the reference pic:kiss:
ok honey....I'll post the pic when I find what I want to use...will do freehand similar to this one..
D-Man
02-24-2007, 09:47 AM
man I'm really sorry man! cute little boy man hes got more hair then you don't he?
No problem man,just bustin' you arse.
Both my kids were born with more hair than me.
D-Man
02-24-2007, 09:48 AM
By the way...thats looking great Norg.
Edkrup
02-24-2007, 10:08 AM
Good start Norg
I got the vinyl down and the flesh tone mixed. I'll put some time in later today, gotta finish up a few things.
chromewarrior555
02-24-2007, 11:52 AM
Hey Norgy, great start. But she looks mad. lol. And Shane, that's why if I don't really know if it's a boy or girl, I just say cute kid. Seen a baby over here all dressed in blue w/ a baseball hat on. I said, wow cute little boy you got there. Mother tells me she's a girl. Lol. So ya never know.
Edkrup
02-24-2007, 02:47 PM
I picked a jig-saw puzzle for a model.
It's gunna be a pain to re-mask the tattoo when the flesh tones ate finished.
Feel free to comment. I could use the help.
shane
02-24-2007, 03:33 PM
hey ed whats them black specks all over the place for? did you use a plotter to cut that out, if you did then you could just lay the face mask over the top and pull the tattoo back out a spray to fine your lines, that's how i would do it any how maybe there's a better way:dunno:
Palepainter
02-24-2007, 03:58 PM
The best way IMO would have been to paint the face with out the tattoos...Then add the overlay mask later with the tribal pattern in it. It is looking pretty dam good.
Edkrup
02-24-2007, 06:28 PM
Shane,
The black specks are refrence points for the vinyl I removed. Hopefully they'll help me line the mask back up easier. If not I'll cut another mask.
Mike,
I realized it would have been better to do the face without the tattoo masked after I did the nose and ear. But I used it like a map to pick out features.
Paint and Learn.
Your homework is to work on the first "base"color of your portrait. Take your time. Remember what you LEARN-ed.
Transcripts and "mini-tuts" will be posted in the Members Section tomorrow.
have the transcripts been posted yet or did i miss them?
like i had to miss the class
oh well it was for a good reason picked up some paint for a wide glide
had the sheet metal for a while but was waiting for some money to start on them
Head Roller
02-25-2007, 12:15 PM
http://www.learnairbrush.com/forums/showthread.php?p=34934
jnichols
03-04-2007, 02:28 PM
It looks kind of like a kid just not to sure it looks like My kid :haha:
Any suggestions?
Jim Nichols
shane
03-04-2007, 04:24 PM
I think it looks like him man, nice job dude:biggthump
Edkrup
03-04-2007, 05:18 PM
Looks good Jim.
Can't wait for Friday.
Palepainter
03-04-2007, 06:53 PM
It looks kind of like a kid just not to sure it looks like My kid :haha:
Any suggestions?
Jim Nichols
Jim,
Watch the side of the nose to the right. That is what is throwing it off a bit right now. The shadow is a bit too far to the center of the face. If you are working on a panel. You can take some rubbing compound to it and take it back a bit. Then go back over it again with your 1st flesh tone. It really isnt that bad. Easy fix. You will get a bit more definition and likeness with the next color.
jnichols
03-05-2007, 07:47 AM
Hey thanks guys, was about to paint it all white and start over.
I will lighten up the right side then Mike thanks again!
Jim
chromewarrior555
03-06-2007, 03:16 PM
Is there anyplace in the members only section that has a how to on mixing flesh tones. Thought I saw one but can't find it now. Thanks.
Edkrup
03-06-2007, 06:05 PM
Is there anyplace in the members only section that has a how to on mixing flesh tones. Thought I saw one but can't find it now. Thanks.
Don,
I don't know where the mix is, but Mike Mike started with white than added red , orange and yellow candies to get a skin color than I think he used a red/green mix to get the proper tone. The candies are mixed, not the concentrate.
Hope this helps...
Palepainter
03-06-2007, 10:37 PM
Is there anyplace in the members only section that has a how to on mixing flesh tones. Thought I saw one but can't find it now. Thanks.
Don,
the info should be in the transcripts as well.
chromewarrior555
03-07-2007, 02:21 PM
Thanks. Well I just became a member, and don't know how to find the transcrips yet. lol. The place is big. I get lost. Lol.
Head Roller
03-09-2007, 11:59 AM
For Members:
Class 1 Review - http://www.learnairbrush.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3779
Class 2 Review - http://www.learnairbrush.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3860
jeffw
03-11-2007, 11:32 AM
ok here is the first layer and the refrence. hard to get a good pic of it.....
jeffw
03-11-2007, 11:37 AM
first and second paint mix, i may have done to much on the first layer... can always fix that as move on i guess. agaibn hard to get good pic of xolor but i think these are the best.
jeffw
03-11-2007, 11:41 AM
and the second step... painted.... at least i think its where it needs to be? secind one is without flash.... i think it needs something still hahhaha
bob mc
03-11-2007, 04:05 PM
I started my step one over this weekend... so far its been a struggle.
I must have spent an hour mixing colors last night...fortunately I have some little plastic containers with good sealing caps.
That way I could save the neat muted blue grey that I got instead of a good flesh tone when a couple drops of extra blue dropped in on one of my mixing attempts. Man the blue is strong! As always I forget how much white you really need to make a pale color compared to the amount of pigment colors.
Anyway, I thought I had a pretty good test spray color...and thought I had lots of it... Not really...
I got way too heavy handed on my coverage with color in step1 compared to Mike's step1. I ran out of my mix of color1 because of this. Fortunately I wrote my recipe down so I could duplicate it. It is also a little too pink, I think, and not orange enough. I think I can adjust later with a highly reduced transparent golden ochre. Probably at the end.
I was quite annoyed at getting heavy handed with pigment after coaching myself through and watching Mike's application ...ahh well...it's not bad for my first ever portrait (if you ignore Corpse Bride)
Evies face is quite a bit in shadow so I don't think I've caused myself too much problems. I had to hit part of her nose with an eraser because I ended up with a horizontal edge from lifting the mask and hitting the nose end. If you go too heavy that'll happen. I'm not too happy with the texture that left in the area of the nose tip, but, I think I can smooth it out further.
There's a few areas I need to hit before step 2 with a darker color begins. I need to hit the right side of the picture along the face edge...and reshape the cheeks a bit...the shadow shapes are off cause my color ran out. I need to do the eye structure too...I watered my paint and hit the eye whites with a wash to knock out the white some...but didn't have right consistency for rounding and eye corners etc.
So before starting step 2 colors that'll get done...and corners of mouth need definition too...
The mouth looks odd to me..but that'll straighten out as my stronger darks go in I guess.
Edkrup
03-13-2007, 05:38 PM
I mixed up the second skin tone and added it around the eyes under the nose, ear and the left side of her face.
I think I got a little blotchy on her left side. It still needs to go darker, so I'm hoping to fix it up with the next round.
A little of the second shade goes a long way in bringing out her features.
I included a shot of the pallet. The second from the left was too red so I added some more green to move it to the brown side.
Comments, critiques, fire away… They all help.
Thanks
Ek
Palepainter
03-14-2007, 03:18 PM
I mixed up the second skin tone and added it around the eyes under the nose, ear and the left side of her face.
I think I got a little blotchy on her left side. It still needs to go darker, so I'm hoping to fix it up with the next round.
A little of the second shade goes a long way in bringing out her features.
I included a shot of the pallet. The second from the left was too red so I added some more green to move it to the brown side.
Comments, critiques, fire away… They all help.
Thanks
Ek
Ed,
Watch that center part of the eye on the right. More towards the nose bridge. It is making the eye look a bit strange.
Palepainter
03-14-2007, 03:20 PM
and the second step... painted.... at least i think its where it needs to be? secind one is without flash.... i think it needs something still hahhaha
Jeff,
Maybe it is the lighting, but it looks a bit yellow. Rendering is good, except who told you to use red on the lips just yet. :) Slap ..Slap... They are a bit awkward to look at during this phase.
Edkrup
03-14-2007, 05:04 PM
Ed,
Watch that center part of the eye on the right. More towards the nose bridge. It is making the eye look a bit strange.
Mike,
Should I use white, than the first flesh shade, or do you think I could get it back with the first flesh tone?
Thanks
jeffw
03-14-2007, 05:34 PM
Jeff,
Maybe it is the lighting, but it looks a bit yellow. Rendering is good, except who told you to use red on the lips just yet. :) Slap ..Slap... They are a bit awkward to look at during this phase.
he hehe h well the white lips was messing with my eyes so i splashed em quick...
its got more of a peach than a yellow its hard to get a good pic, i wanted to wash it with rootbeer candy in the worse way, it needs to darken up some more but i wanted to wait and see what more you had for us with the next steps. and i need a shadow on the left side like the pic, its subtle but its there.
Edkrup
03-15-2007, 04:01 PM
Ed,
Watch that center part of the eye on the right. More towards the nose bridge. It is making the eye look a bit strange.
Mike, you lost me.
Her left eye, right side of photo.
I'll lighten up the bridge of the nose. Should I also make the shadow darker? What can I do about the center of the eye?
I've been lookin at the pic for 1/2 hour and really got lost.
BTW, the class kicks ass. I'm really enjoying it.
Thanks
Palepainter
03-15-2007, 05:52 PM
Mike, you lost me.
Her left eye, right side of photo.
I'll lighten up the bridge of the nose. Should I also make the shadow darker? What can I do about the center of the eye?
I've been lookin at the pic for 1/2 hour and really got lost.
BTW, the class kicks ass. I'm really enjoying it.
Thanks
Yes Ed,
That is the eye I am refering too. I am saying toward the center of the face on that Eye. Something is looking a bit off.
I have been enjoying this class too. I am surprised there arent more interested in doing portraits.
Palepainter
03-15-2007, 05:58 PM
Ed,
Here is how I tried to mape it out for you using photo paint. If you look at yours. That corner of the eye comes up way too high. I did some editing to help ya see what I mean.
Edkrup
03-15-2007, 06:32 PM
Ed,
Here is how I tried to mape it out for you using photo paint. If you look at yours. That corner of the eye comes up way too high. I did some editing to help ya see what I mean.
Thanks for the help Mike, I really appreciate it, but is something missing?:haha:
Palepainter
03-15-2007, 06:35 PM
Ed,
For some dumb reason I cant post the image. I am trying to figure out what the glitch is.
D-Man
03-15-2007, 07:04 PM
I have been enjoying this class too. I am surprised there arent more interested in doing portraits.
I havent had the time with the other stuff I have been doing.
chromewarrior555
03-15-2007, 07:39 PM
Wow I just tried my new Etac paints today. I looked at the bottles and found one that said flesh. Man the Mojo shoots it great right out of the bottle. Really thin lines too. Man I'm so happy I can shoot in my house again. Well here's some pics for my homework. Thanks Diana and Mike.
norgy
03-15-2007, 09:14 PM
that looking good don...
Palepainter
03-15-2007, 10:32 PM
Wow I just tried my new Etac paints today. I looked at the bottles and found one that said flesh. Man the Mojo shoots it great right out of the bottle. Really thin lines too. Man I'm so happy I can shoot in my house again. Well here's some pics for my homework. Thanks Diana and Mike.
Don,
I gotta try ome of that some time. In regards to your painting, you gotta watch the sketchyness of the strokes in the smoother areas of the face. It is one of my biggest habit breakers with all my students. It is ok to stand backwith the airbrush and build up large areas of tone with small amount of wide patter. Try to ease some of the irregularities of the tones especially in the cheeks.
shane
03-16-2007, 12:29 AM
looks one hell of a lot better then i can do man! :D
chromewarrior555
03-16-2007, 02:50 AM
Thanks a lot guys. Means a lot. Now I can't wait for next class.
Edkrup
03-16-2007, 05:40 AM
Ed,
For some dumb reason I cant post the image. I am trying to figure out what the glitch is.
Thank you,
Edkrup
03-19-2007, 06:33 PM
I finally had some free time today because of a dental appointment, so I used it to start another portrait.
I wanted to try the class methods on a color pic.
Wacha think...
Edkrup
03-19-2007, 06:36 PM
Forgot the pic
jaymon
03-19-2007, 06:48 PM
Wow. That looks like its really coming together Ed.
chromewarrior555
03-19-2007, 10:57 PM
New update on Logan.
HR, a little help please. I'm trying to catch up on this assignment but I'm still stuck on the first class. I'm using Adobe CS2 and having trouble with the vector file. I can't seem to find the smooth and curve tools. I thought it was mentioned that they were only available in Corel. If so, might you have an suggestion for Adobe users? Thanks, Brian.
gixster92
03-21-2007, 04:16 AM
BigB... you want to look for the Pen tool, and I am assuming when you mean Adobe CS2, you mean Illustrator nt PSCS2. And you can create smooth or corner lines with the pen tool... on a PC use your ALT key to maneuver the handlebar to adjust the angle for the next segment of your line... Hope this helps.
bob mc
03-22-2007, 09:30 PM
My trip into the daek side continiues...
I really need to stop sooner an each color.
I still have some areas to reshape...the chin got an errant shadow near the end of my session.
I think I'm going to to a gentle once over with some art erasers to see if I can tone some of this back, I've gotten way to dark.
I'm even contemplating shooting a transparent white and golden ochre mix wash over the whole thing...figuring with the blue shift that should occur I should get a light greenish yellow...and lighten the whole at the same time.
That should also reduce the reddish of my first layer..and brown out the purplishness of my second layer
Sigh... ah well not too horrible for my first portrait.
Here's my finshed step one...neatened up from previous
http://learnairbrush.com/gallery/data/516/medium/Evie_paintstep1-final-web.jpg
and here's where I stopped tonight on step 2 with the darker color
http://learnairbrush.com/gallery/data/516/medium/Evie_paintstep2-final-web.jpg
My eyes can't see anymore...so won't be doing anything more till the late weekend at earliest.
Head Roller
03-23-2007, 09:21 PM
Mike's class 4 homework
Head Roller
03-23-2007, 09:22 PM
oh, and Mike's MOJO Moment. . .
rwr123
03-23-2007, 09:45 PM
Mike ,,, amazing skull !!!:You_Rock_ what is the measurement of that part of a razor blade?
Palepainter
03-23-2007, 09:56 PM
Mike ,,, amazing skull !!!:You_Rock_ what is the measurement of that part of a razor blade?
All that matters is that it is smaller than a dime. :)
Palepainter
03-23-2007, 09:58 PM
My trip into the daek side continiues...
I really need to stop sooner an each color.
I still have some areas to reshape...the chin got an errant shadow near the end of my session.
I think I'm going to to a gentle once over with some art erasers to see if I can tone some of this back, I've gotten way to dark.
I'm even contemplating shooting a transparent white and golden ochre mix wash over the whole thing...figuring with the blue shift that should occur I should get a light greenish yellow...and lighten the whole at the same time.
That should also reduce the reddish of my first layer..and brown out the purplishness of my second layer
Sigh... ah well not too horrible for my first portrait.
Here's my finshed step one...neatened up from previous
http://learnairbrush.com/gallery/data/516/medium/Evie_paintstep1-final-web.jpg
and here's where I stopped tonight on step 2 with the darker color
http://learnairbrush.com/gallery/data/516/medium/Evie_paintstep2-final-web.jpg
My eyes can't see anymore...so won't be doing anything more till the late weekend at earliest.
Bob,
Dont panic. It is a bit dark, but you can still make some adjustments with the white or your first light flesh color. Go ahead and reduce it a bit and go back and make the changes you see. The important part is that you recognize what yu need to do.
Palepainter
03-23-2007, 10:01 PM
New update on Logan.
Ok Don,
Now richen up that color you are using with a darkbrownish mix. Not too much darker and slowly go in there and get the contrast that you need. Don't hesitate to use a couple different flesh colors to get to the end result. SLOWLY AND PATIENTLY.
Edkrup
03-24-2007, 06:41 AM
oh, and Mike's MOJO Moment. . .
Oh, so that's why you were holding the razor for the pix at the end of the class.
Mojo....Mojo...
Too cool.
What I saw of the class was your best yet. I printed the pix to compare from the last class. Now I gotta squeeze in some time to apply it.
Thanks Mike and Diana.
Edkrup
03-25-2007, 08:49 AM
This was the 3rd fix and I still can’t get that left side looking right. I keep going from looking ok to terrible. I get the shading blotchy and try to blend it out and I keep getting the same result. Garbage!
At 2am I was ready to break out the DA and some 80 grit or cut off the left side.
Gunna go take a ride, I’m too tired to think.
Any suggestions are appreciated. (The 80 grit is still an option.)
D-Man
03-25-2007, 07:15 PM
Overall the piece looks great Ed!!
I think the left eye is to big,in the original reference shot it was heavily shadowed.
I think that the tattoo looks kinda pasted on there as an afterthought.
I think the skin tones look killer,and like I said the overall piece looks great!!
Edkrup
03-26-2007, 05:45 AM
Thanks D
Every so often I run into a piece that makes me crazy. This is one of them.
That was the 3rd try and I keep getting the same results.
Maybe it has to sit and age a bit before I mess with it again.
Palepainter
03-26-2007, 10:10 AM
Ed the tone and transition of color look great. Just like D says and like what I was pointing out earlier, there is something funky about that eye. I believe it is quite corectable, so don't break out the sander on it. Take a look at your reference and see what you can do to remedy it.
jeffw
03-26-2007, 10:12 AM
ed i think it looks great...... no sanding bud... step away from the sander
now mine on the other hand is getting sanded after i spilled my rinse cup of thinner on it...... no fixing that one....
jeff
Edkrup
03-26-2007, 10:45 AM
Thanks for the support and help, I really appreciate it.
I've been rushing around like a madman for the last couple of months. I'm busy in the shop and busy at work. Need to relax and devote some time to it. This sleep thing keeps getting in the way.
I'll keep trying to it's right.
jnichols
03-30-2007, 02:12 PM
I might be out of order just a little, missed a little time towards the end of a couple classes, but I couldn't stand to look at those two blue dots for the eyes any longer! I have some avery white mask but it is only 15" wide so i had to use this blue crapola. :)
Anyways...... I think i need to darken everything up yet to get the values closer, went a little dark with the eyes. :blackeye:
Sometimes I feel that most of this is still way over my abilities as far as airbrush control goes but I guess I am coming along.
Jim Nichols
Edkrup
03-30-2007, 04:40 PM
I bailed out early today and was able to get some work done on the homework portrait.
This is the second one; the first is resting comfortably after a traumatic encounter with a out of control MoJo. I’m sure she’ll be up and around after some needed convalescence.
#2 is ready for round #5, #1 not so much.
D-Man
03-30-2007, 07:40 PM
That is looking killer Ed,very nice!!
Your skin tones are beautiful.
Edkrup
03-31-2007, 06:52 AM
That is looking killer Ed,very nice!!
Your skin tones are beautiful.
Thanks D
bob mc
03-31-2007, 07:11 PM
Hi folks!
I haven't been completely loafing over the past while...
I've been slowly and carefully working on lightening and adjusting my portrait of Evie from the Learn portrait class that I got too heavy handed with early on.
I can't say I'm fully satisfied with it... I need more color matching practice...
That said I'm pretty happy at how I've done so far as far as rescuing it. I've started in on her very dark eyes...which will be filled over with a pretty dark brown...the current purply grey edging and pupil should just be a hint of detail when done. I'll be trying to leave the highlight spots in eyes as an unpainted, or mostly unpainted area to make popping them easier.[editted in: the eyes whites are masked right now...though tinted with flesh tone some]
Anyway here's my updated comparison. I adjusted the new photo to match the other...my actual picture is a touch lighter than shown here. (It also changes appearance in different lighting)
Evie comparison of step 2 and step 3
http://learnairbrush.com/gallery/data/516/medium/Evie_side-by-side-paintstep2-paintstep3-web.jpg
gixster92
03-31-2007, 09:51 PM
wow bob you have done a great job chaning the tonal value of your portrait... it is harder then hell to go from dark to light. It is a learning experience isn't it.
my next post will be my first attempt at a portrait.... eggghhhaaaasssttttt.....
gixster92
03-31-2007, 09:54 PM
Ok I don't have any in between shots of my portrait. But here is my VERY first attempt (like a lot of us on this thread) at a portrait. First, I tried "Future" floor wax with my paint as I heard it makes it flow better.... LIES all LIES... it made it worse for me... a lot of needle sticking, a lot of build up IN the gun... so I struggled a lot to make this happen. With a lot of work I ended up producing this image of Adriana Lima.... Hope she doesn't mind.
Edkrup
04-01-2007, 06:15 AM
Great recovery Bob. Getting it back from the too dark stage is tough. I'm still having trouble with the first one I started.
Gix, she looks great. Nice job on the skin tones.
Head Roller
04-06-2007, 11:05 AM
CLASS TONIGHT!
Dont forget.
cpnraisnuts
04-06-2007, 06:00 PM
Wish I could be there. I gotta work tonight. I can watch the web cam, but cannot connect to chat from work.
Head Roller
04-06-2007, 09:40 PM
Well I finally got the DV Cam, tripods and all that mess unpacked and set up in the shop. I have been filming all week, and decided to try filming the LIVE classes for download. We shall see how this goes. Im working on capturing the footage now. I think you will like it.
:)
Palepainter
04-08-2007, 11:39 AM
Hi folks!
I haven't been completely loafing over the past while...
I've been slowly and carefully working on lightening and adjusting my portrait of Evie from the Learn portrait class that I got too heavy handed with early on.
I can't say I'm fully satisfied with it... I need more color matching practice...
That said I'm pretty happy at how I've done so far as far as rescuing it. I've started in on her very dark eyes...which will be filled over with a pretty dark brown...the current purply grey edging and pupil should just be a hint of detail when done. I'll be trying to leave the highlight spots in eyes as an unpainted, or mostly unpainted area to make popping them easier.[editted in: the eyes whites are masked right now...though tinted with flesh tone some]
Anyway here's my updated comparison. I adjusted the new photo to match the other...my actual picture is a touch lighter than shown here. (It also changes appearance in different lighting)
Evie comparison of step 2 and step 3
http://learnairbrush.com/gallery/data/516/medium/Evie_side-by-side-paintstep2-paintstep3-web.jpg
Bob,
Nice job bringing it back up. It is a tough job to make the adjustments that you did. Hurry up and get some color in the eyes before I have to call a priest over to your place for an exercism. :)
Edkrup
04-10-2007, 06:06 PM
I got some time to put the last lesson to use.
I went in with the darkest shade and worked the upper eye lid, nose and lips. Added some more red candy to the cheek and lips.
Hit the highlights with the white like you demoed. Big difference in the texture. The pic is really coming to life.
Thanks to you Mike, this is the finest work I have done. The class is fantastic.
Everyone that has seen it is blown away by how lifelike it looks. I hope it comes across in the post.
Oh yea, the greyscale photo really helped to..
shane
04-10-2007, 09:21 PM
looks awesome Ed! i really like your coloring man! :fing02:
Palepainter
04-10-2007, 10:22 PM
Ed!!!!!!
ED!!!!!!
Magnificent job and absorbtion of information. You have nailed the tones, the values look great. Well on your way young man. :)
norgy
04-11-2007, 08:11 AM
Absolutely ED...that is awesome....
Edkrup
04-11-2007, 06:11 PM
Thanks for the props all. I appreciate all the help I get from the members.
Mike what can I say, you're a great teacher.
D-Man
04-11-2007, 08:12 PM
That looks awesome Ed!!
That has to be your best your best piece ever man,nicely done!!
chromewarrior555
04-22-2007, 06:32 PM
OK latest up date on my Logan portrait.
Head Roller
04-22-2007, 06:46 PM
I just finished up the movie from the last class. It is rendering now. I will have it up later tonight. WEEEEEEE.
Don, she looks like a sweetie.
cpnraisnuts
04-22-2007, 07:08 PM
OK latest up date on my Logan portrait.
That looks great Don. Huge improvement from when you started the portrait class. Nice, nice work.
norgy
04-22-2007, 07:10 PM
nice job don ..she does look like a cutie....
chromewarrior555
04-22-2007, 07:24 PM
Thanks everyone. Yea she is, we sure miss her. We just found out we won't be able to see her till June now. Man talk about getting stabbed in the heart. She was coming over in May. Then we had to find out from someone else about the change. Son won't tell us nothing. Aloha.
D-Man
04-22-2007, 08:16 PM
Thats looking sweet Don.
Sorry to hear about the delay.
shane
04-22-2007, 10:50 PM
Don man thats awesome dude! ;)
Head Roller
04-23-2007, 06:54 AM
For Members -
The latest class video is available
http://www.learnairbrush.com/modules.php?name=Sections2&op=viewarticle&id=105
Edkrup
04-23-2007, 07:00 AM
Beautiful Don,
Thats some really nice work.
Shading is on the button.
Edkrup
05-01-2007, 03:44 PM
Well here's the homework from the last class.
I have too much color in the hair. I gotta bring it back some.
norgy
05-01-2007, 08:59 PM
still looks damn good ed...
Edkrup
05-03-2007, 05:06 AM
Thanks Norgy,
Can't wait for the Friday class and more hair painting.
Just hope I can get on.
Malorie
10-01-2007, 07:05 AM
Are there transcripts available for sessions 3 & 4? I can only find 1 & 2 and then we go to the vids from 5 on.
Malorie
Steve Leahy
05-15-2008, 11:49 AM
I know this post is over a year old, but this is the first time I got a chance to read through the whole thing and I just wanted to say grats too everyone involved! I was incredibly cool to see how each person took Mike's instruction and worked it into the way they liked to work.
It was great to see people struggle through the challenges that they were facing to finish the portraits. Great read.
rowie
05-15-2008, 10:07 PM
So very true Steve.
This course in print or on DVD would be super kewl.
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